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Hosts Koji Steven Sakai and M. Martin Mapoma get together on Zoom again to discuss the best and worst of the self-quarantine. The biggest problem is that Koji is going stir crazy and Martin is a homebody so they are having very different experiences.
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Voice Over Host 0:02
This is the best or worst podcast. And now here are your hosts Koji Steven Sakai and M Martin Mapoma.
Koji Steven Sakai 0:13
Hi, welcome to the episode 25 I’m Koji
Martin Mapoma 0:18
and I am Martin.
Koji Steven Sakai 0:19
And we are still in the middle of the corona apocalypse.
Martin Mapoma 0:24
Yes, we are. What’s that?
Koji Steven Sakai 0:26
How are you?
Martin Mapoma 0:29
Yeah, I’m as good as I can be, you know, considering with everything that’s going on. Yeah, it’s it’s this thing is crazy. How are you?
Koji Steven Sakai 0:39
I’m good. I’m good. Just remember to mute yourself right?
Martin Mapoma 0:43
I am. I’m muting myself right now. Maybe it is the first before I do that. Well, I gotta tell you that I got a you seem like you’re faring a lot better than this than I am.
Koji Steven Sakai 0:53
Why do you say that?
Martin Mapoma 0:55
Because I mean, you know, you the pictures of you and the kid out doing stuff. Early on, I was like, wow, okay, so it’s been a lot of pressure on me as usual.
Koji Steven Sakai 1:06
We’re just you know, I go stir crazy I can’t stay home so we’re out and about where, you know we’re safe. We’re not going to like crowds and stuff, obviously. But we’re we’re definitely we’re not we’re not sitting at home and doing nothing. We’re just definitely I’m trying to get him outside. I mean, and and his schooling is like friggin eight hours a day. So
Martin Mapoma 1:22
yeah, that’s that’s definitely Grayson dude.
Koji Steven Sakai 1:24
Like 730 to like five is, like intense intense schooling. So
Martin Mapoma 1:31
yeah, that’s Grayson too. We have it you know, we have a schedule set up and you can’t see from here but Michelle has a whole schedule that starts at eight o’clock and goes until eight o’clock when he goes to bed. Yeah, it’s it’s nuts. It’s nuts.
Koji Steven Sakai 1:45
But you guys are you guys doing Jiu Jitsu I don’t see you guys on Jiu Jitsu.
Martin Mapoma 1:48
Oh, no, I i want to i just First of all, we don’t have any pads
Koji Steven Sakai 1:53
Okay.
Martin Mapoma 1:54
So we can’t do Jiu Jitsu and you know, you know and again, so I we watched it and Grayson saw for the first time he did. He just looks to me like wow, dad and I’m like thank you Koji again, when we feel like a horrible parents
Koji Steven Sakai 2:16
the jujitsu is saving us. For us. It’s like it’s a great reprieve for us to be able to do something that’s that’s different. That really pushes us we’re starting to run a lot more to getting him to run. So we’re we’re almost at a mile now.
Martin Mapoma 2:28
You say run?
Koji Steven Sakai 2:29
Yeah.
Martin Mapoma 2:30
Outside.
Yeah. Wow, you really you know, I think it’s funny because for me being a you know, a lifelong asthma sufferer, and it not getting any better. I this thing, it’s like, of all the pandemics to happen. I don’t need to be around for respiratory disease. Because anything respiratory always messes me up and I just have you know, and I want to say I don’t want to say it’s a crazy fear, but I just know if I get the Coronavirus. It’s just not it’s game over for me. I really No, that was it. My my lungs are horrible.
Koji Steven Sakai 3:02
Yeah, but we’re not when we ride we’re not near people. And we were out on the street. So we’re like, I mean, we’re, we’re, when people walk near us, it’s like they’re on the other side of the sidewalk and stuff. So everyone’s really, I mean, at least at least South Pass we’re where I am where we are. It’s very, like everyone’s very cognizant of like, we stay away from each other you know, we we nod we say hello, but it’s not like I said, we run on the street so we’re at least like eight or nine feet away from people so we’re good. I mean, it’s but it’s again, it’s like I can’t I can’t be outside and and I want him to stay in shape so that he he comes back in and strong jujitsu form in baseball form. So we’re hitting baseballs everyday as well. But But let’s get into you want to get into it?
Martin Mapoma 3:41
Yeah, I thought we were
Unknown Speaker 3:42
okay. No, we’re not officially right. So this is this theme is Today’s theme is best or worst of our time in the self quarantine in our lives. Right.
Martin Mapoma 3:54
Right.
Koji Steven Sakai 3:55
So, you want me to go first? You want to go first?
Martin Mapoma 3:58
Why don’t you go first?
Koji Steven Sakai 3:59
Okay. So let’s,
Martin Mapoma 4:00
let’s be good. Did I ask you how you were today?
Koji Steven Sakai 4:02
Yeah, you did? Yeah,
Martin Mapoma 4:03
I did. I’m going crazy. But real quick, though before we before we get into that real quickly, um, it’s it’s not so much the social distancing that worries me. It’s just I had this, you know, I’m a hypochondriac and I just feel like you know, I just don’t I don’t take any chances we go outside we walk to but I just, I just have a heightened sense of self right now. Understandably, you know what I mean?
Koji Steven Sakai 4:25
Yeah, no, no, I totally understand. I just I literally can’t stay home I mean, it’s, it’s impossible for me to be home I even on Sunday, I took like, we took an hour drive. You know, we went up we went down to Santa Monica and then we drove drove up the one that we took Topanga all the way around to like Woodland Hills. So we just like it was like a really great drive. But you know, I just I literally, it’s impossible for me to stay home and do nothing so so we didn’t we didn’t get out the car. We didn’t like do anything, but we definitely just seeing the ocean seeing people driving along the coast and then through the mountains was like really, really like cathartic for me to be able to do
Martin Mapoma 5:00
Yeah,
Koji Steven Sakai 5:00
that helps us get into like, kind of our first thing so like I’ll do. I’ll do my I’ll do my worst first and then you could do your worst and then we’ll kind of go best. Does that sound right?
Martin Mapoma 5:11
Yeah, that sounds good.
Koji Steven Sakai 5:13
So my, my worst, I have three worsts, really. I wrote it down, see?
Martin Mapoma 5:22
I don’t see anything. I don’t see anything.
Koji Steven Sakai 5:25
the virtual background.
Martin Mapoma 5:27
Okay. Did you actually have something in your hand?
Koji Steven Sakai 5:29
Yeah, I did actually. That’s hilarious. I wonder if it shows up in the video, Okay, so the first one I’m doing the worst is that, you know, I, it’s, it’s the uncertainty of everything of not knowing like, what’s gonna come next is really hard to kind of be able to plan. I mean, so much of so much of our lives is about planning like the next day, the next week, the next year. And now it’s like, it’s really, really difficult . Because, like even just, you know, jobs that I didn’t necessarily want. Now it’s like, dude, I gotta I gotta think I can’t like throw away a job because I don’t know what’s gonna come up after that. You know? I can. Yes. Yeah. So you know, I think that that’s been really like a tough thing for me to be able to like deal with it just because so much of my job is like, right it’s so much like gig stuff. Like I get hired to do this. I get hired to do that I’m doing this and consulting for here. Yeah, so now it’s like, I don’t want to throw away thing that I would have thrown away before because I just don’t know what’s gonna happen now.
Martin Mapoma 6:33
No, you can’t. You’re absolutely right. You can’t.
Koji Steven Sakai 6:36
And then the second thing which we already kind of talked about was the the stir craziness of it all. You know, I’ve just like I said, I literally just cannot go, I cannot stay inside. I can’t, like I have to be outside. And so that’s why I like, like, we talked about caught like we’re constantly playing baseball, or were you starting this running routine, we might satisfy this running routine. You know, we’re like, I’m like buying stuff. Like I’m gonna like blaze to get food or I drove to like donut man, don’t just like 30 minutes away from us.
Martin Mapoma 7:06
Well that’s in Azusa
Koji Steven Sakai 7:08
yeah like Azuza so it’s like
Martin Mapoma 7:10
we do you see I don’t mean to cut you off Did you see them on him on? God we saw him on some cooking show yeah and show I literally went up there we got that one with like the fruit in it
Koji Steven Sakai 7:20
And the strawberries we had the strawberry one that’s the fresh one But we he’s Japanese American so he’s been like in the community for a really long time.
Martin Mapoma 7:28
Is he open
Koji Steven Sakai 7:29
Yeah, he’s open. And so we were just like, I mean, like I have to go on I was like on Sunday morning at like 8am like to my wife I’m like I gotta go get donut man. Got do some shit. Just like out and about and and hiking. like basketball and just you know not with other people but just me my son and doing things and I think that that’s like to me like one of the one of the craziest things now the third one which is a little less about the apocalypse but more about
Martin Mapoma 7:54
Wait, wait, wait, wait, was that your worst? Yeah, that was pretty fun.
Koji Steven Sakai 7:58
The store craziness. No just being like stuck feeling the stuck at home part is the crazy is the the worst part and, and having to go out and really get out and then the third one is not this is kind of a byproduct of the, of the current apocalypse but, you know, working with my son now as a as a second grade teacher just to see what like where he is and what like level he is and seeing, like what I expect out of him are so different. And so now like his education at home is like a million times better than what he was getting at school, you know, in terms of like his reading in terms of his like school, like we see the math that he’s being assigned or like no, no, like, we’re Asian our math is going to be like we’re doing like fractions. Now. We’re not like doing like, you know, wait,
Martin Mapoma 8:44
So he’s doing fractions now. Are you introducing fractions?
Koji Steven Sakai 8:47
We’re doing fractions. He’s already doing long division for a while but like, we’re like at school. They’re doing like, you know, multiplication. So we think that’s like crazy. They just introduced multiplication nd I think that’s crazy. He should be
Martin Mapoma 8:59
introduced it
Koji Steven Sakai 9:00
Yeah, so that’s, and so that’s why, you know, the reading and all this stuff is just, it’s just been like eye opening to see like the the kind of education that he’s getting and just the expectations and the self discipline that I want him to have as a student. And to see like the focus that he doesn’t have and just being like, it’s really eye opening that before I just, I mean, we’re too busy. I I’d had the school do it, obviously. But now it’s like, okay, like, I need to work with him on these certain things and really sit with him and really do it. And that’s something that we just didn’t have time and didn’t have before and it was really eye opening. So I went a long time, but what was your worst? What was your worst part of the self quarantine apocalypse for you?
Martin Mapoma 9:45
So, I have to say, I have to say for me when it comes to so quarantine, I feel like is a person who hates to leave the house. I feel like I’ve been training for this moment my whole life. You know, I you’re asking for my worst right? My, my worst moment Ah, it’s it’s you know, even though I don’t want to leave the house that I’ve been going stir crazy it’s it’s been that’s what’s been hard to see is the kid just sort of you know he’s he’s getting antsy and we don’t get out as much as you do and to try and keep him on a regular schedule you know it’s it’s been tough because this is this is this is uncharted territory you know, no matter how much of a schedule he’s on, you know, it’s this thing normal about it doesn’t know what about having a kid you know, like my guy at home 24 seven for almost a month now. And it’s you know, starting to show a little bit you know, starting to have some some cracks. So that for me has really sucked because he wants to play with his friends. He wants to go outside and he can go outside. Um, you know, even though he’s, he’s a very social kid, and he can be a loner at the same time, you know, him wanting to see his friends and not be able to do is just been like a it’s been a soul Crusher. You know? That’s that’s been tough. Um, and again, like I said, I think I’m handling it better than most because again, for me personally, not, you know not like to leave the house I want to stay here. You know, it’s been it’s been, it’s been good. Can we pause for a second I have to use a bathroom so bad. I’m dying.
Koji Steven Sakai 11:34
I don’t know. Let me see. Okay, let’s do it. Well, I think I should we do this? Because we have the content.
Martin Mapoma 11:43
I can take it with me.
Koji Steven Sakai 11:45
I have to cut the video together.
Martin Mapoma 11:47
So it’s hard to know. I’ll try and tough it out.
Koji Steven Sakai 11:51
Well make it quick.
Martin Mapoma 11:54
Don’t move. I’ll be right back in two seconds.
Koji Steven Sakai 11:56
Okay. So, I will go ahead and because my partner Apparently has to use the bathroom, I will get into the best of my, of the self quarantine for me. So the best for me is obviously it’s as I kind of talked about, it’s spending time with my kid and writing more. So, you know, spending time with my kid I, you know, we’re so busy in this world, you know, he had an activity every day. So we so for me, it’s a really an opportunity to, to spend time to get to really know him. And sometimes it’s not great because we get in these huge fights. But unlike Martin, I’ll just saying unlike, you know, like, like my son and I probably I’m probably his best friend. So like, like we spend so much time together in general.
Martin Mapoma 12:46
Yeah, you do.
Koji Steven Sakai 12:48
We spend a lot of time together and we’re like, we’re like a you know, we’re so we’re very similar kinds of people. So we get on each other’s nerves a lot. And so that’s one of the best things were like I was just saying that one of the best things we spend so much time I get I’m getting to know my son in a ways that he didn’t know, I didn’t know him and he’s getting to know me in ways he didn’t. So that’s been really, really great as one of the best things. And the second best thing for me is that, you know, as a parent, as a father, as a husband, I need to make money. So a lot of times my career has been about trying to make money. And just, you know, whatever gig comes, I’m trying to just, if somebody’s paying me, I’m gonna write it. But in this in this time, it’s been I’m being able to write more because I’m home more cuz I can’t do anything. And so that’s great as I just been able to kind of sit down and focus and and kind of figure out what, what I want to write and kind of build a look at my career again in different ways. And actually, one of the funny things about this right I think I’ve mentioned in my last episode, but I’ll just mention again, is that this, this current apocalypse is been very challenging for or been interesting for Hollywood in that the producers are still around executives are still around and working, but they’re just not because they’re not in production anymore. So they’re taking more meetings, I’ve had a lot more meetings lately, and I’ve had a lot more pitches and stuff. Yeah, I’ll zoom. And they’re taking my pitches more and they’re like reading my stuff. And it’s just been really interesting. So I’m not sure where it’s gonna go.
Martin Mapoma 14:17
Oh, that’s got to be good, though.
Koji Steven Sakai 14:18
Like, well, it’s weird because they’re not really buying it because nobody’s moving forward things but they’re like reading it. They’re taking your meetings. It’s been interesting. So it’s been interesting in that respect, you know, but yeah, well what what is your some of your best what is the best thing from the from the self quarantine for now?
Martin Mapoma 14:35
The best thing is getting to hang out with Grayson because he goes to school. You know, every morning comes and you know, I won’t see him until like six o’clock at night. I haven’t been able to hang out with him all this time. has been great because I’ve seen a lot of things with him, you know, great work with him and his schoolwork. Um, and even I’m not the best doing it with him, working with him on the school. Seeing his habits the way he is throughout the day has really been eye opening. He’s and I realized what a great kid he is and he loves that and I love him. And we’ve done a lot of cool things together. You know, we’re starting to build he has, he’s had a whole bunch of Legos sets he had gotten from birthdays and we bought him that he’s never put together we didn’t have time. Now we’re starting to do that. You know, we’re starting to play a lot together. And you know, you know, he just had his birthday. Yeah, he said his birthday on Saturday and spend a lot of you know good time together doing that. So we’ve got we’ve gotten a lot closer that’s one great thing. Another thing is getting stuff done around the house because I’m you know, I’m always gone was doing something. I’ve got a few projects that I wanted to start I got one done this weekend that I just loved. I gutted my gutted to my upstairs patio, outdoor patio, and that felt so good to set up not to sit here and look at it and see how clean it is and got rid of all kinds of crap. And then the thing I was gonna do for like, you know, months, almost a year, I finally got done doing Even having Michelle around is really cool because she’s always gone always traveling and she’s been grounded for a while driving her crazy but it’s great to have her around to, you know, and we’ve been doing a lot of things at Grayson because we’ve done so much shabu shabu It’s crazy. You know, it’s a tradition help him experience new things. That’s been fun. You know, Grayson Grayson has a ton of questions because I’m the only kid around your room around to talk to is a ton of questions. And you know, now you have nowhere else to go. I’ve been able to answer those and you know, try and you know, get to know him a lot better.
Koji Steven Sakai 14:35
So, what kind of questions is he asking?
Martin Mapoma 16:38
Oh, man, he just like, you know, like today he was asked, he’s like, Dad, you know, he does what’s the longest I’ve ever stayed awake. And I forgot all about this. But when I was in college, I sold books door to door for a company out of Nashville, Tennessee. And one year they sent me to Texas. I’ll never forget I you know driving back to school at the end of the summer. I drove for almost three days straight. It might have been a little less than that, but I didn’t sleep. I drove from Texas to Kentucky. I didn’t sleep one time. I thought it was three days long. And you know all these questions about Daddy, what did you eat on the way What did you you know, as I think I hate fast food, he was all I do the same thing too. And he was just fascinated that I did not go to sleep because Did you sleep while you’re driving? I said, No, honey, I understand. We’re gonna crash the car. And he’s like, all day, like, they’ll be so cool to stay up for three days. I’m like, No, it’s not. You know, I drive I ate so much nodos and pop so much nodos I thought I was gonna go nuts. But, um, you know, things like that. Um, he asked y’all about the family. Even zoom was, you know, zooming with some people and he’s asking about his cousins a lot more, my family a lot more. He’s just really curious. You know, some pretty cool, you know, things that I sort of brush off you know, I have nowhere to go. And so you know, and I always try to eat. I always try to engage as much as I can. I will say the one thing though is we don’t have mass. I don’t know where you got your jujitsu mats. But you know, that’s something that I like to do with him.
Koji Steven Sakai 18:10
You could you could buy it on Amazon.
Martin Mapoma 18:12
Are they reasonable?
Koji Steven Sakai 18:15
Yeah, they’re like, we have we bought three and they’re like, 90 bucks each or something that
Martin Mapoma 18:21
I saw that that’s cool. Yeah. Is he digging that?
Koji Steven Sakai 18:23
Yeah. I mean, well, you know, it’s not as good as being in the in the, in the gym, but it’s him and I actually him and I wrestle him and I wrestle him and I do jujitsu and then we and then he does his practice. It’s, it’s really good, basically, for us to get our A our aggressions out on each other. And he’s actually like, you know, I mean, he’s, he’s surprisingly like, like, he’s actually surprisingly good with me, in terms of, like, I’m surprised by how good he is, like
Martin Mapoma 18:53
I’ll tell you something, you. You’re living on borrowed time. Like he was like, 15 years old. He’s crushing you
Koji Steven Sakai 18:58
I think he’s gonna be even to say, like, I’m like, I, like I’m on the ground trying to keep him in front of me. And like it was it was hard. Like, I wouldn’t tell him this because I don’t want him to think he’s awesome or anything, but he like, he was like, I try to keep like my foot in front of him like in jiujitsu you kind of like, yeah, like your foot in front of him. And then like, I’d like move my foot. And by the time I’m like, where he was, he’s, like, moved to the other side. And, like, the other side, and right when I get like, right when I’ve already got there, he’s like, already moved my back. And it’s, and it’s like, a little too quick for me to like, but I’m bigger and stronger. So I could like, yeah, like, recover. But I was like, it’s, it’s second. It’s like, right now it’s already like, a second faster than me. And so it was it’s so it’s challenging, because it’s like, if he was like, just, you know, like, 10% stronger. That that one second of have been taking me out like it’s like, I mean, we’re just like I could I wouldn’t be able to recover. Because it just be like, you’d be on my back before I could do anything. So it’s really, really that’s been really, really fascinating. But you know, My goal
Martin Mapoma 20:00
I’d say about so probably about 12 years old, you’re done.
Koji Steven Sakai 20:03
Yeah, I think by 12 I think he’s gonna he’s gonna take me it’s like that 12 year old that I fight we fight at the my practice and he’s like yeah,
Martin Mapoma 20:12
Matthew,
Koji Steven Sakai 20:13
The funny thing. He’s, he’s really good. It’s just that like, he’s just not strong right now. And so ultimately, like he could, I could like just lift them and like, pull them down and stuff. But like, at some point when he’s like, stronger, he’s like, he’s like, gonna be like, Fuck you. He’s gonna do whatever he wants to me,
Martin Mapoma 20:28
but he’s gonna put it on you, dude. He’s gonna put it on you. You know one more thing I wanted to mention that one of the best things about this whole thing. My neighbor, my neighbors have been awesome. Um, you know, not as my neighbors but friends. You know, again, I think I mentioned this last time. People that I never expected have checked up on us. That genuine checked up was Hey guys, how you doing? But my neighbor down the street. two doors down. She’s awesome. She has a she’s a company on etsy and she like she’s done things for Grayson’s birthday and for us for you know for years, but now she’s she’s making masks and she got this big order from a hospital this lady who runs is the head of the nurses in the ER, you know asked her to make 100 masks. And so she made she’s making them he said, Hey, would you guys want to you know, she said, Look, I’ll just I’m not gonna charge you for them. I’ll just, you know, have you guys you know, we’ll just just cover the materials. And so she texted us and said, Hey, do you guys want to pitch in and we were like, of course, because there were the hospital she’s at and she didn’t tell us. They’re reusing their masks, which is bananas. But, you know, she really stepped up. She’s got both of her kids doing it. You’re muted. Both of her kids doing it to help her out. And it’s just been amazing. It’s really, really blown me away about how you know,
Koji Steven Sakai 20:28
well, there is I was gonna say there is a way to reuse masks. It’s just you have to do it in a certain way. And there’s like, you have to disinfect it and you have to air it out for a long enough time. I know a lot of the hospitals are using like, like a UV but also like keeping it in like storage and like airing it out for a while long enough and stuff. But yeah, of course I think they need a lot of work but yeah, that’s I try not to get too close to my neighbors because I have this thing. I just, I just, you know, like, I mean, I know all my neighbors and I’m cool with all of them but like I don’t want to get too close only because if things turn sour, like I don’t want to be uncomfortable. And so like if as long as we’re keeping it like cool as long as we’re cool we say Hi we’re friendly.
Martin Mapoma 22:35
That’s all we do we don’t we don’t like you know, go over and talk. Everything I’m talking about to you like she made us three masks. This has all been done. You over the phone, like she’ll throw stuff over the gate. We’ll go pick it up, wipe it down before bringing on the house. But in that in that regard.
Koji Steven Sakai 22:49
Yeah, I mean, I mean, in general, I would I’d like just, I try to keep it like really like, we’re like business friends. I get all my neighbors and I are business friends because
Martin Mapoma 22:57
you’re that neighbor
Koji Steven Sakai 22:59
because oh Because I’ve had to go sideways. I mean, I’ve had like, my, when I was a kid, my mom’s from the neighbors, we were like, really close to our next door neighbors and my parents and them got in a huge fight. And it was like, super uncomfortable. It made like, it made it like, he couldn’t go outside because if he made any noise, they call the police. You know, like, yeah, like it just, it’s not like, it just makes everything so uncomfortable. That like, the lesson I learned was like, be cool, be helpful. Be nice, be friendly, but like, we’re not like, I’m not trying to be friends with anybody. You know, I’m just gonna try to be like, I’m cool. Like I said, I mean, I remember after the whole thing started happening, I texted all my neighbors like, hey, if you need anything, don’t don’t hesitate to let me know. I have a lot of I have a lot of stuff. I’ll be happy to help you
Martin Mapoma 23:47
with whose this again?
Koji Steven Sakai 23:48
No, no, no, we’re cool cuz we text all the time but like, but like but uh, you know, like, that it kind of stops at that for me in general. Like even like even beyond. My wife is even more like don’t even talk to you. Cuz cuz it’s just like, you know don’t like because it causes so much drama you know and things go sideways so much people get their feelings hurt and shit, you know?
Martin Mapoma 24:07
Yeah, it’s been it’s definitely the wife Dude, I’m much more social person.
Koji Steven Sakai 24:13
Well, um, but I I’m nosy so I’m like in everyone’s business and that’s another reason I try to stay out because I’m super nosy about things. I’m like, Listen,
Martin Mapoma 24:21
That definetly me to
Koji Steven Sakai 24:25
I was joking with my wife that I could name the race of everybody on our street. Like, white person, African American, Latino, Asian, Asian American,
Martin Mapoma 24:33
Who’s African American.
Koji Steven Sakai 24:34
There’s Africa. There’s there’s an African American family and on my street so it’s like, you know,
Martin Mapoma 24:38
there’s no kids, right?
Koji Steven Sakai 24:40
No, kids. No, no,
Martin Mapoma 24:40
I was gonna say cuz if you had Kids Next Door be hard not to have at your boy playing with them
Koji Steven Sakai 24:46
But my street but the street we live on is pretty hard because it’s so busy up, right?
Martin Mapoma 24:49
Yeah, it’s like I do not envy you.
Koji Steven Sakai 24:52
But uh, but we but it also means that we could run around so we’re good. We go to the side slide to the side streets. Well, Do you have any other best or worst from this apocalypse?
Martin Mapoma 25:04
From whole thing?
Koji Steven Sakai 25:07
let me get an estimate of how long you think this is gonna go on. It’s what? April 7 or something?
Martin Mapoma 25:16
Seven months a month will be what?
Koji Steven Sakai 25:19
It’s already been four weeks right?
Martin Mapoma 25:21
Oh no. For the 18th is four weeks. I think Grayson got out of school the 18th
Koji Steven Sakai 25:27
Oh, no. Yeah, we were we were a week before.
Martin Mapoma 25:29
That’s right. You You were a few days before
Unknown Speaker 25:32
Yeah,
Martin Mapoma 25:32
I remember that? No, I don’t know how long it’s gonna go on. I honestly don’t know. I this is April May. I don’t know may conservatively. conservatively end of May. I don’t know I just it’s I every time I try to I try to make an estimate about this. I you know, I look I seen you watch TV. You see out and about And it’s, you know, it just I just don’t know, I do have one worst. You know, I hate all these Facebook experts, so just drive me insane. You know, I have someone that I’ve known for a long time we’re, we’re, we’re Facebook friends, I accepted a friends request from this women, like, when you said a long, long time ago, when I was living in Kentucky, and she posted this video of this numbnut driving around Dayton, Ohio looking for COVID patients like he goes to like a stadium and he sees a you know, a testing center set up. And he’s like, Look, there’s no one there. There’s no one there. And I’m watching this thing and she didn’t you know, she didn’t write anything. She just posted it. And then he goes to and he’s like, there’s no one here it’s all a hoax. And think I use serious and then he goes to the hospital. And he’s you know, looking for the emergency room. He finds the emergency room and he walks in and he’s goes like again looking for COVID patients and the security guard and the nurses out front. We’re literally looking at him like who that fuck is this guy that Oh shoot, we have a crazy guy in our hands. So I want to know where the Covid patients are under like, you know, it’s one of those things that they couldn’t even answer him and you know she posts this like it’s it’s like this aha got you there’s no hoax and I’m like, you know I want to write back to her and go Are you seriously posting this as a joke or like you think it’s serious but ended up not saying anything but that’s that’s that’s the worst part about it is these people bury their head so far into the sand that you know it’s like their stupidity is not only going to get them killed but us killed you know it’s I keep going back to that because I just can’t believe that people are just
Koji Steven Sakai 27:37
Dude got to learn how to like block all the people who you know you could you could
Martin Mapoma 27:41
I do
Koji Steven Sakai 27:42
I never see any of that stuff on my feed
Martin Mapoma 27:48
My index finger has been blocking all these people that sort of gave a chance to sort of double down on their dumbness. They’re all blocked. They have no light, they’re all blocked.
Koji Steven Sakai 27:57
Yeah, of course, like after the Trump election. I have blocked everybody who I don’t want to see? But you know, like that’s it’s actually brings up a funny point I always I just think it’s hilarious that people are saying things like, Oh, it’s less than the flu or it’s less than 9-11 we started so funny because next time there’s like a 9-11 kind of event people should be like, well more people die from drunk driving. Like what’s the big deal? People die or do like whoa, shark attacks every year like next time there’s a mass shooting be like wow yeah I mean like where people die from shark attacks over the year so who cares, you know? Nothing like it’s a stupid.
Martin Mapoma 28:35
I don’t know what to say anymore you know it’s just like people are still saying Oh, the swine flu I’m like Are you serious? That’s that’s the worst for me is people that I that I that I that I genuinely like and I’m like How did I miss all this? And
Koji Steven Sakai 29:03
You have to you have to get over the other people Dude, this is like two episodes.
Martin Mapoma 29:11
Because it just it just it’s just mind boggling to me some people you know, I, I you know, I look at it, I shake my head and I swipe,
Koji Steven Sakai 29:18
but I still just I don’t know. So there’s a lady who died recently from I think she was in Texas and she like an hour before she got she was a diagnosed with COVID-19 she she was like, you know rambling about whatever hoax and blah blah blah, faith and blah blah and then she ends up dying like a couple days later. And you could see like you’d see it all like it’s really interesting these people but you know, that’s
Martin Mapoma 29:46
When you see that what do you think Koji, you chuckle just a little bit inside.
Koji Steven Sakai 29:50
I mean, these you know, these this is like what the country has become. You know, people are like, people are so people believe More in faith and science, you know, in this country, and I think we’re, I think, you know, like, this is a longer conversation, but I definitely think this is like a prelude to like, the end of America as being the being the world leader being the superpower.
Martin Mapoma 30:15
I think we’re done, dude.
Koji Steven Sakai 30:16
And I think that this is like a, this is part of what’s going to happen. And I really do believe I just arguing with my friend about not arguing what we were talking about, you know, like, I do believe there’s gonna be a big war in the next like, 10 years. And I think that it’s like, I think it’s going to be a pretty big war.
Martin Mapoma 30:32
This is one of the catalysts for it.
Koji Steven Sakai 30:34
No, no. I mean, in the same way that 1929 was not a catalyst for was was a catalyst for World War Two, but not the entire catalyst for war two,
Martin Mapoma 30:41
I mean, yeah,
Koji Steven Sakai 30:43
but I do think it was, it’s gonna play a part. You know, there’s gonna be a lot of changes after this. And I do think that I that’s why I’ve always been really worried about my son fighting in a war because I always felt like there was going to be a war, and it’s gonna be a really big war and the two things I maybe should talk about this now But the two things I have two places, I think it’s either China, or it’s a civil war. Those are my Those are my guesses. That
Martin Mapoma 31:06
really
Koji Steven Sakai 31:07
it’s going to be a big war with China. Because, you know, I don’t remember a time when one country is losing its its its place, another country is taking its place, and that being peaceful. Usually that’s not that that transition is never peaceful. And then the second one is, you know, just look around America where we’re like two separate countries. I think we had a civil war podcast, right. So I think I
Martin Mapoma 31:26
We did,
Koji Steven Sakai 31:27
I think I think we could see that one coming. But But I don’t know if that’s, that’s more realistic than what’s happening next. But this has been a really, really great conversation.
Martin Mapoma 31:35
Yeah, it has. The next one, we should talk about faith versus science. That’s a good one.
Koji Steven Sakai 31:40
Faith, but what is the best or worst faith or Science?
Martin Mapoma 31:43
Or are you kidding me?
Koji Steven Sakai 31:44
But wouldn’t it just be okay, well, we can have an offline conversation about what the next next subject will be. I don’t think people care about what we choose to be the next one, but please rate review, subscribe to our podcast.
Martin Mapoma 31:56
Please do please do. Koji’s been great about doing this. I’m horrible at But I love doing these podcasts and you know, it’s I’m glad that we could do it from you know, zoom wise because you know, I excuse you I could talk all day long all day long about what’s going on right now because it’s not so please rate review. Subscribe we work really hard and this Koji does and it’s is a labor of love but it’s a lot of fun. It really is. And I hope you guys get a lot of hope you guys get some benefit out of it. If you have any questions, please, you know, comment in the comment section. And we’ll get back to you.
Koji Steven Sakai 32:32
Actually, I do think maybe next next episode should be not about COVID because I think maybe people might be tired of it so but we’ll have this conversation offline.
Martin Mapoma 32:38
I will say this though, you know, everyone’s about being going stir crazy. And no, I said it and I’ll say 1000 times more than I’ve been training this whole my whole life. You know Julie Andrews spinning in the field and the sound of music. You do that’s me in my living room.
Koji Steven Sakai 32:55
Yeah, no,
Martin Mapoma 32:55
no know,
Koji Steven Sakai 32:56
me as me is running around being like, I gotta I gotta teach my son how to Run and we’re gonna do is we’re gonna be like miles and miles and miles of running cuz because I run like right now I’m running like three or four times a day now I like running in the morning I’m running in the middle of the day I’m running at night after my son asleep I’m constantly just I need to run I need to be outside. I can’t
Martin Mapoma 33:17
I don’t know what to say that bro unico.
Koji Steven Sakai 33:20
I can’t be outside it just like drives me nuts. Now if I can bring my son along then it makes it easier to have it like habits of running around together.
Martin Mapoma 33:26
I love that kid so much man to see him now running with you. Secretly inside just hating your guts.
Koji Steven Sakai 33:32
Yeah, no. I’m like, stop running so loud. You have to like you can’t slam your feet. like have you just been like, come on, man. Come on. Go go go.
Martin Mapoma 33:46
I feel like I have to rescue that poor kid.
Koji Steven Sakai 33:48
I’m playing like motivational videos on YouTube for him as we run. Yes, I’m like arise champion arise. Yeah, this is For him, it’s like this apocalypse in the worst. And everything. I’m like, you gotta try stop giving up.
Martin Mapoma 34:06
He’s gonna smother you with a pillow.
Koji Steven Sakai 34:11
All right, well, please, please join us. Please make sure to like, subscribe and rate us. And please check us out on all our socials. Tell a friend. So have a great night. Have a great night, everybody.
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