Hosts Koji Steven Sakai and M. Martin Mapoma brought in Australian actor/filmmaker/go-getter Lark Lee to talk about the best or worst day of her life. Hers has something to do with an accident and her long journey with her insurance company.
Host Voice Over 0:02
This is the best or worst podcast. And now here are your hosts Koji Steven Sakai and M Martin Mapoma.
Martin Mapoma 0:14
Right Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the best or Worst podcast. My name is Martin and I’m Koji and this is episode number 34. I cannot believe that 34 episodes now. Anyways, that being said, we are here with Koji’s amazing friend from Australia and Koji, I’ll let you do the honors.
Koji Steven Sakai 0:30
And actually this is we’re really honored not just because Lark’s on the show with us but also this is our first guest from outside this country outside of America. So that’s really exciting. So we’re I’m really excited about that. We’ve had people not from America, but this is the first time it’s something outside of America so luckily she’s a writer, director editor, actress and go getter according to her Facebook page I’m not sure what go getter means but we’re gonna have to ask her about that.
Martin Mapoma 0:56
I would assume with all of those those things just ran out that she was a go getter. Any Yeah,
Koji Steven Sakai 1:00
She’s living in Brisbane right now and originally from Seoul, Korea. So how are you? Lark?
Guest Lark Lee 1:06
Yeah, I’m great. Thank you for having me.
Martin Mapoma 1:10
Definitely our pleasure.
Koji Steven Sakai 1:11
Why don’t you tell us a little bit about yourself? I mean, other than what I gleaned off your Facebook
Guest Lark Lee 1:15
What you just read?
Koji Steven Sakai 1:15
Guest Lark Lee 1:19
About me the whole thing until you read that go getter part. Cuz I, I studied the film journey as an actress. And I realized in Brisbane especially it’s not that easy to get jobs as an actress. And I wanted to give myself more opportunity. So I wanted to have concepts that I want to make, you know, small films. And then I realized, Oh, I have to write down to make other people understand what I want. So that’s how I studied writing and yeah, so now I’m really into making phones. So that was years ago. And yeah,
Koji Steven Sakai 2:10
So you’re more of a… Are you more of the director writer now than actor?
Guest Lark Lee 2:13
Yeah. Writer Director. Yeah, Writer Director. Yeah.
Koji Steven Sakai 2:15
Okay, well, what do you like? What do you like? Why do you like directing and writing more than you like acting?
Guest Lark Lee 2:21
Ah, first of all, um, well, I think you always had to be like, picked be selected by other people.
Martin Mapoma 2:30
Guest Lark Lee 2:31
And yeah, I didn’t. And the people I’ve seen here in Brisbane, I think it’s a very different than LA cuz there you have a lot more opportunities that
Martin Mapoma 2:43
Everything is different than LA LA. You know, you can have you can have it because I’m an actor as well. You can have a great career in New York. You have a great career in Chicago, but everyone will always tell you, you want to really hit the big time you got to go to LA. You have to come to LA. Yeah, good Brisbane wouldn’t do it for you.
Koji Steven Sakai 3:02
I think it wouldn’t be. So I found it’s really, really hard. And some of the casting directors from other cities like Sydney and Melbourne, they were telling me that the actor is in Australia that is a well known actress in Australia. They have to have like second job to feed themselves. And that kind of like, you know, made me think, oh my god cast I cannot, you know, put my What would you say to my future career, and I want to be in charge. I can’t just rely on luck.
Martin Mapoma 3:50
It’s funny that you said that because, you know, I remember when I was starting out. One of the things that I always remembered was Jay Leno said that the worst thing an actor can say or a comedian can say is that they make $30,000 is their second job. I remember him saying that, yeah, he but a second job as an actress or an actor, period is just when you started, it’s just the way of life. You know, it’s you have to have that second job but
Koji Steven Sakai 4:14
Or marry very rich. But But
Martin Mapoma 4:16
yeah. Or yeah or you have a sibling or a parent is in the business.
Koji Steven Sakai 4:21
But where’s that? Excuse my ignorance on Australian filmmaking? filmmaking industry. Where’s the where’s the main place? Is that Sydney? Is that going to be Sydney? Where the main…
Guest Lark Lee 4:31
Yeah, look? Yeah, a lot of things have happened in Sydney. But la we have a roadshow village. The film production here in Gulf Coast. So a lot of films come here to shoot. But yeah, to be in the game yet. So as an actress as an actor, yes. Like Sydney, or Melbourne is a place you have to go.
Koji Steven Sakai 4:58
Guest Lark Lee 4:59
If I could move I would have Yeah, I have a daughter here. And I’m a single mom. at home.
Koji Steven Sakai 5:08
How’s your daughter?
Guest Lark Lee 5:09
She’s only eight.
Koji Steven Sakai 5:10
Oh, so we have we have both Martin and I we have eight year olds too
Guest Lark Lee 5:13
We’re all parents.
Martin Mapoma 5:20
Parents of the world unite.
Koji Steven Sakai 5:24
The one thing I always ask Asian people in the film industry, especially anybody well, anybody really in the film industry, who’s Asian, I always ask them what did the parents think about them being an actor or filmmaker? What did your parents think of that?
Martin Mapoma 5:35
You know, you can also you can also attribute it to Africans to the same boat.
Guest Lark Lee 5:40
Martin Mapoma 5:41
Oh my god. Are you kidding me? Yeah.
Guest Lark Lee 5:43
Unknown Speaker 5:44
oh, yeah. They’re especially like, you know, go ahead and answer Koji’s question and then I’ll you know,
Guest Lark Lee 5:50
okay, and then you’re gonna educate me. Koji would know it but like, Yeah, well, my parents wanted me to be really good with academic at school, I wasn’t you know, he was uh, but, uh, but I think I kind of was brainwashed that he I thought I don’t have um, like, good degree in you know those fields, my life will be a failure kind of thing. So um so yeah growing up I entered university to you know, study. This is a long story too. So I started my university as a mechanical engineer.
Koji Steven Sakai 6:48
That’s a good that’s a good Asian thing to get started in.
Guest Lark Lee 6:51
Yeah. Yeah. Like I was it. I entered the universities just because Without knowing what I actually want to do is enter that because you know, that’s what they want you to do. And the when I was a freshman, I realized that was something I would not enjoy. It was all about mathematics and physics and yeah that’s not what I was thinking I thought you know, I could be able to make machines with my hands and stuff. I was wrong. And so I changed to Oh, yeah, and then I wanted to be a dancer too back then that did a lot of dancing. Yeah, did it
Martin Mapoma 7:41
Oh, cool. Cool. Sorry, what kind of dance?
Guest Lark Lee 7:44
What kind of dance? hip hop and popping.
Martin Mapoma 7:47
Really? Yeah. Oh this year in in Australia or back in Korea
Guest Lark Lee 7:52
Martin Mapoma 7:54
Because in Korea man because I love hip hop and B boys and that kind of stuff and Korea. Korea’s like, the place for hip hop. For people to dance. Yes.
Guest Lark Lee 8:05
Martin Mapoma 8:06
It’s so funny. If I’m up at night, I watch countless hours of, you know, uh, you know, Korean B boys and you know, just the boys in general most of them
Guest Lark Lee 8:15
B-Boy are huge, right?
Martin Mapoma 8:17
Koji Steven Sakai 8:19
Wait… Wait… Let me just make sure I’m hearing this straight. You like to watch young men dance on your own?
Martin Mapoma 8:24
Koji Steven Sakai 8:28
Okay, I’m just I’m just making sure that I heard that correctly
Martin Mapoma 8:30
You always make it so goddamn creepy. Because I used to break dance a long time ago when I was young. Yeah. Yeah, so that was I’ve always I’ve always liked it, you know, I’ve always you know, admired and envy those guys because the best thing that I could ever do was like a spin on one hand, but like doing a windmill.
Koji Steven Sakai 8:51
can you do one right now can you do one now?
Martin Mapoma 8:53
If I tried to bounce one hand spin with my weight it would snap the elbow.
Koji Steven Sakai 9:01
We’ll go viral will go viral.
Martin Mapoma 9:02
Yeah, word for my idiocy. I’d be a legend.
Guest Lark Lee 9:06
Yeah. Tic tock,
Koji Steven Sakai 9:08
Martin Mapoma 9:10
Watch, watch that African break his elbow turned a bit Bebop, you know?
Koji Steven Sakai 9:15
Okay, no, sorry. But getting back here so you wanted to be you. So you went from mechanical engineering to wanting to be a to be a dancer.
Guest Lark Lee 9:22
Yeah, that was a long time ago really, really long time ago, 20 years ago.
Koji Steven Sakai 9:27
Then you kind of went into acting.
Guest Lark Lee 9:32
I have a long story. Wow. You know, I’ve never really thought this way. But um, yeah, it sounds like I had been like, hey. Um, yeah, so so working in the film was after I came here to Australia. I never had courage to be in front of it. Camera.
Koji Steven Sakai 10:00
Oh, it also you started acting when you went to Australia but not Yes. Not in Korea. So interesting. Was there ever kind of a? I don’t know a lot about Asian Australians, but is there is there I mean, in America being Asian American is usually not a great thing. I mean, it’s not in terms of like in terms of Hollywood industry, it’s not necessary. I mean, recently things have changed a lot, but it’s, it’s a little bit better. But in general, being Asian was usually not a great thing for your career. But in Australia, has it hurt being Asian or do you feel any kind of difference with that or
Guest Lark Lee 10:34
Same, so it’s not there? They’re not that many works to have as an if you’re an actress. But yeah, um, yeah, but they they’re starting to open it here too. And, yeah, it’s more like Asian you have, you know, you have to be he has to be an Asian role to play that.
Martin Mapoma 11:00
It’s a shame but you know, it’s it’s. It’s tough. You ever thought about trying to act in Korea?
Guest Lark Lee 11:07
Sorry. Oh, no, I didn’t. I did not try acting Korea.
Martin Mapoma 11:10
Because that’s, uh, you know, being locked up we’ve been… My wife had been watching a lot of
Guest Lark Lee 11:15
Martin Mapoma 11:16
Oh, yeah, it’s, and I got to tell you for someone who had never experienced it. It’s been. It’s been pretty amazing. You know, but we’ve I’ve watched we’ve watched we watched two shows in the middle of watching actually we watch. We watch one show completely in the middle of watching two more. And I have to tell you some of the best stuff I’ve seen on TV in a long time. I’m watching a show called King eternal monarch on Netflix. And then this one called crash landed on you and I gotta tell you, they’ve been amazing. They’re really really good. So no, they’re good. We watched another one called chocolate or chocolate. Yeah, which is really good too. But anyway. So what was it? What was it when you got to Australia that made you realize you really wanted to be an actress?
Guest Lark Lee 12:02
Ah, I’ll just give it a go. I wanted to act. When I was young, I wanted to be an actress all the time. But, you know, growing up I was you know, I thought I had to study. And I was not as good looking to be on TV. That’s what I was told. So yeah.
Martin Mapoma 12:30
Who told you that?
Guest Lark Lee 12:32
You have siblings?
Martin Mapoma 12:34
Guest Lark Lee 12:36
Koji Steven Sakai 12:37
Asians are tough as a
Martin Mapoma 12:43
I’m married woman to one. You know, I know that. You don’t tell me that. So and she’s wonderful woman. I love her very much.
Koji Steven Sakai 12:49
I mean, my mom calls me fat. All she keeps she called me fat constantly. Yeah, I’d be I was like to triathalon team. And I’d be like, I’m Like in the best shape of my life and she’s like, you look fat, like fuck. Like I thought I look good, but now it’s
Guest Lark Lee 13:09
Martin Mapoma 13:10
aren’t you? Aren’t you You’re the son. Aren’t the boys can treated it like golden child’s
Koji Steven Sakai 13:14
Martin Mapoma 13:15
Koji Steven Sakai 13:16
Not necessarily. I mean it’s the same…
Guest Lark Lee 13:18
Are you the only kid?
Koji Steven Sakai 13:19
No, no, there’s I have a I have a sibling but yeah, don’t get me started my brother.
Martin Mapoma 13:28
I have a sibling
Guest Lark Lee 13:30
I have two.
Koji Steven Sakai 13:34
you get along with them?
Guest Lark Lee 13:35
I was in the middle one.
Martin Mapoma 13:37
Guest Lark Lee 13:38
Yeah, the toughest one I think. Worst one or the best one. I think
Martin Mapoma 13:43
boys or girls?
Guest Lark Lee 13:46
both of them girls.
Martin Mapoma 13:48
Oh, wow. So three sisters. Three girls in teh Family.
Koji Steven Sakai 13:51
Did they all stay stay in Korea, or did they come they move?
Guest Lark Lee 13:55
They’re in Korea. Yeah, they’re rolling. So now relationship is better, because we are far away from each other.
Koji Steven Sakai 14:05
That makes sense that one of the best things I ever did in my life was I, you know, for a long time, I was trying to make things work between me and my brother, because I thought, like, We’re brothers that we should like, be, like, friends. So I’d go over and I just like, like, one of the best things I ever realized was like, I don’t need to be friends with this dude. You know, he’s like, I mean, Martin knows, but we’re not like, he’s like mentally unstable. He’s just not a good person. And so it’s like, it really helps me. Like, like, realizing, I’m like, you know fuck at this dude, like, like, he doesn’t need to be my friend. He doesn’t need to be my family. Like, like, He’s not my mom. Or he’s not my dad. You know? Like, he’s not like, He’s not my wife. I didn’t choose He’s not my kid.
Martin Mapoma 14:44
Yeah, you know, they say though, you know, never put up with things from family that you would never put up with from strangers. you know, it’s true.
Koji Steven Sakai 14:51
Yeah, for sure. But okay, I think we’re at that time in the show…
Martin Mapoma 14:54
Yes, we are.
Koji Steven Sakai 14:55
So let’s Martin, what do you want to hear? Do you want to hear the best or the worst from our guest? here now.
Martin Mapoma 15:00
I want to hear you decide so I can counter maybe
Koji Steven Sakai 15:02
why this is different usually you’re the one that decides and I decide to counter Okay, well I’m going back and forth on this one I’m you know, so
Guest Lark Lee 15:12
tell me the worst one.
Martin Mapoma 15:14
Oh no no no
Guest Lark Lee 15:19
one is better sorry
Martin Mapoma 15:20
now what now what are the best
What do you think you cut out Koji would you say? Are you can’t hear you can you hear him?
Guest Lark Lee 15:32
No I can’t
Martin Mapoma 15:33
Koji we can’t hear you.
Guest Lark Lee 15:34
I think he muted himself
Martin Mapoma 15:37
Koji Steven Sakai 15:45
gosh, just my excitement hit the pause button but I want to I want to hear that. I want to hear the worst because she said he had a better worst story and I usually go with that story. So
Guest Lark Lee 15:55
okay, great, good
Koji Steven Sakai 15:57
Martin, are you in agreement or come on just agree.
Martin Mapoma 16:01
I don’t know she seems so jovial. I don’t know. Look at that smile. Okay. Okay, fine. Let’s do the
Koji Steven Sakai 16:05
worst. Yeah. Lark, what is your worst moment or day of your life?
Guest Lark Lee 16:10
Ah, this was 25th of may 2019.
Martin Mapoma 16:19
Guest Lark Lee 16:21
So that was one year ago from your time. It’s 26th today. Yeah, yes, really. So that that morning, there was a film event that I was planning to attend in the morning. And so I was pulling out my car. So where I live is pretty quiet. It has a small strip in front of my house is like small street. And usually there’s nothing no cars on my street because it’s not a drive pass street. You know, it’s more only the residence and usually there’s nothing that was driving backward reversing my car and trying to think you know where I’m going and what I’m going to do when I get to the event. And then and then I’m my car hit something and then I was in my in my head I was like please, please a tree. Please a tree, please a tree. And then I parked my car in front. I opened the car and got out oh my god it was a car. I had to cut my neighbor had parked his car on the street. Like he never does that. Like why was his car there right the
Koji Steven Sakai 17:45
Can I interrupt real quick? I thought you’re gonna say a person. So I’m glad it wasn’t a person.
Guest Lark Lee 17:55
no, that would have been that would have been even worse than this. Thank you, now I feel better
Koji Steven Sakai 18:03
But sorry, you can’t keep going on. Sorry, I interrupted you
Guest Lark Lee 18:06
Okay. So there was a little one, nobody saw this. But, you know, I thought, you know, I can’t just walk away from this. So I knocked on his door. And I called him out. And I showed him his car. What happened? And a told him that I did that and he was like small dent. And he’s, you know, right side. Oh, it’s the right side of the driver’s seat in Australia. So right side door, dent and we both thought it wouldn’t cost much. So he said, He’s gonna, you know, check on the take it to the mechanic, and then you know, get quote, it might not even you know, it might not be even more expensive than the access fee for the insurance. So, so we both agreed, you know, let’s see how much they will charge. And yeah, he got back to me that afternoon, although not that often only like, like next day I think he got back to me saying, This is gonna be expensive. costing a lot. And so he was asking me if I have an insurance, and I do I do I always have insurance with me. I never go out with me drive without insurance because I’m too scared to if anything happens. So I checked I was trying to check how much is my access fee so I logged on to my account and then I realized my account was cancelled. Yeah, my interest account was cancelled. So I was like, why? That random remember the insurance company and then they were telling me I was not paying. But you know, my payment was supposed to be automaticlly you know, deducting you know, from their end. So I’m like well I’ve never really received any notification and why is this happening and then they told me they sent me then they notify me a few times twice so they sent me a PDF file a January letter saying that they they fail to take the money out and then February letter saying if I don’t also so January if I don’t pay money they’re going to cancel my account and February they canceled my attempt but I never received those. So I but then I thought um, they said that went to my email. And I thought maybe they sent those to my post because I didn’t haven’t seen them on my email and I was checking on all my all my emails on there. Not there. And I thought this was really unfair because I don’t remember reading any of this. So I so this this point, I was, like, Dumbed founded like, What am I supposed to do? And I contacted this, like government helping low service place. And yet one lady like read all the policy and she saw that, you know, I’m supposed to either email or mail to be notified from them. So if I’ve been notified by email, all the other stuff then I supposed to get those notifications on my email as well. So she helped me writing a letter. You know, that’s what it is. And that I haven’t received any of those on my emails. So please cover this. And I can’t pay the rest of the fee that I owe you guys. And I sent that one. And they were ignored. They were not replying to the salon for months. And meanwhile, the insurance company from He’s my neighbors. They kept ringing me telling me to pay the money. And then because, you know, I, I felt really unfair to pay the whole fee. So, um
Koji Steven Sakai 22:43
Quick question, how much how much are we talking about how much?
Guest Lark Lee 22:45
Well it was. It was $2,000.
Koji Steven Sakai 22:48
Okay. Australian dollars.
Guest Lark Lee 22:50
it was not it was not a huge, huge but yeah, but I still felt it was unfair.
Martin Mapoma 22:59
I was going to say Lark, what kind of car what what brand of car was it? What model
Guest Lark Lee 23:05
of his? Yeah, his car was holden. Do you do not holden?
Martin Mapoma 23:11
Guest Lark Lee 23:13
no, cuz it’s Australian car.
Martin Mapoma 23:16
Yeah. Similar to like, is it similar to like, I don’t know BMW or Honda.
Guest Lark Lee 23:22
Cheap one. Probably like,
Martin Mapoma 23:24
it was $2,000 for the door.
Guest Lark Lee 23:27
Also like, it was it was a labor fee.
Martin Mapoma 23:32
I get it, I get it
Guest Lark Lee 23:33
Yeah, they have to you know, just just connect everything and then you know, put everything and then painted. He had to be you want to be perfect. And you know, I thought you know, he could probably buy the same car with that price. So they kept kept ringing me and I was trying to, and I’ve been I was waiting for my insurance company to reply to me. And I feel unfair. I don’t want to do it. You know how to want to pay for this. Now i sound like a bad guy.
Martin Mapoma 24:22
No, not at all.
Guest Lark Lee 24:23
Oh, thank you, thank you. But I’ll be happy to pay for the you know what I was supposed to pay. So I was covered. So, um, and then, yeah. And then from then on up, every time I see the private number phone call coming on my phone. I stopped not answering. And then it went on for months. And I felt like I was chased by debt collectors.
Koji Steven Sakai 24:54
They were collectors. Did your insurance ever get back to you? Do they ever get back to you about this?
Guest Lark Lee 25:02
So again, so it has been months and then I forgot to be like avoiding all those phone calls and then I got a text message saying wasn’t different it was not an insurance company so it was a some different like recovering debt kind of you know, different company name saying, you know, you owe this much our clients to our clients and you have to you know, make payments and, and yet still they owe was really stressed with all these, you know, contacts from them. And then one day they about a couple of weeks ago, they emailed me and this moment, I was like, Oh my god, Okay, that’s enough. I can’t I can’t I can’t be keep, you know, chased by debt collectors and every time I see the private number coming, you know, my heart pounds Okay, let me just pay and then you know, be debt free. So I was, uh, decided to Okay, well let me just pay then I was about to click and pay stuff. And just then I was like, hold on if I’m gonna pay well, let me just give one more go and then I rang my insurance company. The ones did not reply. So they had me like month long, long time ago, I when I email them and then I told them the whole story What happened? And then this guy, referred me to someone else. And then I explained and then this lady was insisting they sent me those letters to my email. And, but I never received them. I’ve never seen them. So I was telling them, you know, it must be your computer system error because I never received them. And they kept insisting, well, we sent you that we sent you. So you, you know, it’s not our fault. It’s your fault. And one lady was telling me it’s my bank’s fault because my bank was not informing me that the money transfer did not they try to take the money out from my bank. And also she was telling me Oh, yeah, so it’s a one time that was a December, I got a notification saying, you know, the, the they could not take the money out. So they told me to make payments, and I did it like straightaway and she was telling me on the phone, I did not do that that time. So I was going through all my bank details they you know, trying to see if you know, but wonder where did I pay this money? Cuz the up because I thought I prayed to them and she was telling me almost paid to someone you know someone else, it’s not them. So I asked her Okay, then what was the last time I made payment to you guys? And she replied me say, well I can’t get access to your payment details on my computer so she had no idea when I paid or I’ve made a payment or not. But she was telling me I didn’t make payment. So are you serious? And then yeah, she asked me if I want to if she if I want her to refer me to someone else who can check my payment details. So I said yes. And that yeah, that lady told me I made a payment that day. And then and yeah, but she said from her end They have sent the it says they’re recorded, they sent me the emails of those notifications so that she can’t do anything. They’re not going to cover it. But she told me, you know, to send an email to the policy policy department. So I did, I sent him an email, the policy department explaining everything. And then and they got back to me a few days later saying that, well, they have sent to me the letters they say this date this date, so they’re not going to cover and this this moment, I was upset. I was and then and then I wrote a review on you know, on the page that you know, that anybody can search. And then I didn’t like say anything. I did not make up anything I just wrote down what exactly happened. And then also, my friends were telling me to use to complain to make a complaint. On ombudsman. Do you have ombudsman, okay, so you know,
Koji Steven Sakai 25:49
I don’t know what an ombudsman is.
Guest Lark Lee 30:19
It’s a, a company that received complaints from for other companies. And then they tried to help.
Koji Steven Sakai 30:30
Oh, got it. Okay.
Guest Lark Lee 30:31
Yeah. So, so I did that too. And then like, the next day, I got a phone call from this company, my insurance company. Yeah. Saying that they he wrote, he read the review, and that they understand what happened. And then they asked me how much the the fee was to to cover the the accident. And yeah, now they’re, they decided to cover me. So yeah, after I tried to do it, you know, like without making it public. You know, I was trying to solve it inside with them.
Martin Mapoma 31:25
Yeah, once you go public they really back off. Especially if you have a you have a sound case, they get real nervous because no insurance company because most people think that insurance companies are a scam anyway, the last thing they want to do is have you know, a disgruntled client who then gets, you know, more support from other people who are like, hey, that happened to me too. That never looks good for that insurance company. They can’t afford to have that happen. can I ask you a quick question how what was the time during this whole thing? From the point that your car you hit that car to actually being reimbursed the money what was that timeframe? Was that two months?
Guest Lark Lee 32:03
One year. It’s it’s it’s still on it’s still going
Martin Mapoma 32:10
That’s the longest worst day ever. That’s the record Koji
Guest Lark Lee 32:14
One whole year. yeah yeah oh my god seriously every time I get a private number on a call. Errr… don’t answer it.
Koji Steven Sakai 32:26
that’s that’s funny because I have the same private number when I get private numbers my brother trying to call me and yell at me about
Martin Mapoma 32:35
we could do a show just on that alone good. Yeah, yeah, cuz
Koji Steven Sakai 32:37
he’ll call me call me like 50 times. But But anyway, the what what did you learn from this experience? I mean, is there something like after after all this time and all this fighting and everything? What have you learned? What did you take away from it?
Guest Lark Lee 32:52
Um. Yeah, I had to be firm. I need to be firm. Because if I because the first time when I rang them, they told me they sent me You know, they notified me and I thought I had I, I made an error. Andagain the second time when this lady was telling me I did not make payment. I thought I made error again until I and then I was you know, on. I was I was trying to find the error I made and if I gave up on that that time this this might not have happened. Luckily I asked her within when was my last time payment then I realized No, she she’s you know, she doesn’t even know when my payments details.
Koji Steven Sakai 33:54
Yeah, it’s also weird cuz I mean, I it’s something similar happened to me but then I got a text I got an email, I got a physical letter. I mean, I was getting like, I got like, I got like three texts from my insurance company telling me that like, I changed bank accounts or something and it didn’t change my number. And I remember getting all these things. So yeah, I find it weird that they didn’t. They didn’t do you know more, they usually do more to get your money than less to get your money. Yeah, that’s that’s, that’s odd.
Martin Mapoma 34:22
Koji Steven Sakai 34:23
And you have so you have insurance now, right? Everything’s good with your insurance now?
Guest Lark Lee 34:26
Yes. So, you know, the funny thing. Okay, so, uh, after that before I hang up that phone call, you know, the last lady who before she told me Oh, you’re after she told me to contact the client of the policy department. She asked me Okay, so do you need to insure your car gain as if I would insure by them again?
Martin Mapoma 34:53
Koji Steven Sakai 34:58
I was gonna be my follow up question. Whether that Well, you’re still with that insurance company but i guess i know i know like I
Guest Lark Lee 35:03
yeah, so the, like few days after I looked at my policy was cancelled from that company. I signed up to someone else straight away.
Martin Mapoma 35:15
Koji Steven Sakai 35:16
Yeah. Is it I think it’s crazy also on one of the cultural things that I thought was interesting about your story was that you talked about you went to the government, your government and thet like read your your contract. I think if I tried to go to somebody in the government here in America, they’d be like, fuck you get out of my face. Like, what are you taking this document to me for? It’s your problem, not mine. I think it’s I think it’s awesome that you’re that that people within your government are willing to help you and try to
Guest Lark Lee 35:46
They’re amazing here in Australia.
Koji Steven Sakai 35:48
Yeah, I can I share what Australian story with you real quick, but I remember I got into this. I got hurt during this rock climbing thing. The last time I was in Australia. I was like, I was really hurt. I mean, I wasn’t like dying or something, but I was pretty hurt. And the whole time I was in like, I got an ambulance everything was coming again and I got to the ambulance and like the whole time in the ambulance, I’m like, hey, I need to go back to my hotel room. I need to go back to my hotel. I need to get my passport and my credit card. And they’re like, we’re You’re too You’re too hurt to go back to the hotel. I was like, No, I need to go. Because in America, if you don’t have a credit card, or you can’t show that you have proof of insurance, I’m gonna fucking take you know, they’re gonna take you but they’re gonna take you to the worst places. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. So the so the Australian drivers like where are you from? I’m like, I’m from America. They’re like, Oh, it’s free. And I’m like, Oh, great. Nevermind Let’s go. I was like because Yeah, seriously in America if I can’t show proof that I have any kind of insurance they’re not going to a they might not take me to a good place. They’re gonna not they’re gonna take me to like, they might take me somewhere far away from where I’m at. Like if I’m hurt like here, they might they they might not take me nearest hospital because the hospital… Huntington definitely wouldn’t take me but you know, like, so that was I was really funny I remember just thinking like, that’s so pathetic, like, when I’ve heard the only thing I could think about was how am I going to pay for this thing? I’m like
Martin Mapoma 37:15
That’s a running theme with a lot of people, you know, they they, I have a lot of friends who I’ve had, you know, old friends of mine who were from Poland, and they’d be major surgery but you know, I’m just gonna go home they go home for two months get the surgery and come back. Having not pay you know, paid for nothing there. Yeah, you know, you can’t afford to do it here.
Koji Steven Sakai 37:31
Guest Lark Lee 37:33
It’s really good here in Australia, I did not know that they don’t charge for Western people. The foreigners
Koji Steven Sakai 37:43
Well, I had to pay no, I had to pay but not as much as I would pay in America. And and also I’d have to show it in the beginning of it.
Martin Mapoma 37:53
Yeah, you can get hurt here in LA in California. And take an ambulance ride to the to the ER get treatment and then go broke rest of your life
Koji Steven Sakai 38:02
Guest Lark Lee 38:04
yeah literally either fix you or…
Martin Mapoma 38:08
they’ll they’ll fix you but they’ll also make sure that you
Guest Lark Lee 38:11
Martin Mapoma 38:13
$30,000 for an ambulance ride just for the whole lot yeah
Guest Lark Lee 38:18
$30,000 for an ambulance
Martin Mapoma 38:20
30,000 ambulance. yeah easily
Guest Lark Lee 38:24
it’s free here. government’s paying you know it’s probably all the tax everyone paying to the government and they’re paying
Martin Mapoma 38:33
Some of the reasons why there are so many private ambulance companies in California that’s one of the reasons why is because people care about they want to help they know how to make money
Koji Steven Sakai 38:40
yeah it’s a scam.
Martin Mapoma 38:42
Koji Steven Sakai 38:43
well, well Lark tells how can people follow you what you’re working on how can people know how can people see what what your what your next projects are?
Martin Mapoma 38:52
How can they find you Lark?
Guest Lark Lee 38:54
Find me on Facebook. So Lark Lee, I think yeah. filmmaker Lark Lee, although sorry Lark Lee films, okay, sorry.
Koji Steven Sakai 39:08
Okay. I’ll put a link in the notes. I’ll put a link in the notes so people can follow follow you I have a big as you know, I’m a big I should have mentioned this earlier. I’m a big fan of your work. I love your work. I would love love to work with you in the future. And also I just want to mention that I love Asian Australian accents. I think they’re the best accent because it’s like it’s awesome accent I’m like Americans are my la accent it’s not awesome.
Martin Mapoma 39:42
I apologize for not messing with him now. I was like a little bit Australian.
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